Wednesday, June 15, 2011

Women's Dignity: The world confirms that India on 4 th Rank of comm...

Women's Dignity: The world confirms that India on 4 th Rank of comm...: "omments from sender : We all know it. We have seen this in our families,neighbourhood,But man nahi manata. As we are a nation of sick menta..."

Jain sadhus are equally responsible as they worry abt kanda lahsun but not against wife beating, against dahej/Dowry, against arm-twisting and insulting of bride side by groom side , against pressure of samaj on marriage show offs , on pressure of boy side to do marriage functions in particular way and with particular standard as if their whole lifes mission is that as a boy side they will accomplish all their glamour hungry saitan with in at the time of son's marriage.

Monday, June 13, 2011

Don't earn bad karma's my adviose to rich IITians........Alok


My reply to BX Ghosh and all others blessed by almighty but request to not to block supplies of poor...Alok

dear All,
Namaskar. Pl. pl. pl. understand that there r millions of children / youth in my country called India (enslaved by politicians and bureaucrats for last 60 yrs) who dont get food, water, shelter. They die of undernourishment. If u have a spoilt toy to be thrown in bin then pl. send me and i have millions of toddlers who have never seen them and wud like to get one old and see smile on their face. If u have a pair of sleepers to be thrown then pl. send me as here in my city and around in Adivasi areas there r millions walking barefoot in 50 degree temperature, or walking on rough surfaces and so on....

I am not surprised by people commenting these way that our youth want the latest and best yes cause u have seen only ur youth brought up in that environment. But India exists elsewhere too.

I welcome to move to introduce the cheap comp for that segment of my brother and sisters. There r some who will get exposure to some technology and dont try to deprive them. My only concern as alwys is
1. Whether ordered and quantity paid for will be delivered?
2.Whether it will be really reaching the needy or will be sold in black?
3. whether officers in charge will harass / delay/ make them wait for months and then ask for bribe to release the same. etc etc ..

But there r definitely millions who need them and atleast few will get them.

I wud appeal to u all blessed if u have usable old clothes, household items, footwear, books, toys,pc etc etc instead of throwing or giving it scrap merchant donate to poor / adivasies etc.. If u cant find such orgs and if convenient then send me those items ( in usable/ clean conditions) and I will distribute nr Virar adivasi backward areas and send you photo of same.

And for havens sake do ur best for ur children as u can but do not enter bad karma by blocking the supplies of por / have nots. Rather encourge, and if means permit take chrge of such distribution so it is not misused by officers.

Alok Tholiya
atholiya@gmail.com
www.aloktholiys.blogspot.com
+919324225699

--- In nationalnetworkforindia1@yahoogroups.com, Satish Jha wrote:
>
> For those who care: not a single Android PDA is priced below $499. The
> average price of what is in demand is about $699 plus taxes and essential
> accessories.. These devices are for communication and consumption. Not for
> learning.
>
> Incidentally, while India can boast of $700 cell phone connections, the US
> students are on to the PDAs. Cell phones don't have a market anymore. In
> India, PDA market may not be larger than 1 million a year against $200
> million cell phones lines added last year. (someone may bring precision to
> the data here). In the US market, PDAs are more than half the market..
> Effectively leaving the gap where it has been in the case of toilets or
> drinking water or sanitation or calorie intake or whatever criteria one may
> adopt.. give or take some, the story is similar..
>
> But it does not have to be. All it requires it a simple thought.. where are
> we headed.. what will get us there.. rather than we cannot do this or we
> cannot do that..
>
> These devices are not going to be sold for $49 just yet.
>
> I will give one example:
>
> I purchased an AT&T cell phone in NY in 1994 for $800
> Then in India in 1996: $800
> Another Nokia 9000 in 1998: $800
> Blackberry: 2004: $800
> iPhone 2006: $800
> Blackberry: 2008: $800
> Blackberry: 2010: $800
> Android: HTC AT&T: $699++: abt $800
> iPhone 2011: $699 ++ abt $800
>
> Not counting the change, its about the same price.
>
> Its similar curve for the laptop, around $2000 for a comparable laptop -
> 1988 onwards..
>
> In nominal terms, prices have remained about the same while capabilities of
> these instruments continues to improve and so does our need.
>
> Anything that does not offer value for nothing is too expensive. Anything
> that offers value for whatever price one pays is cheap.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Satyajit Roy wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > $49 Tablet based on Android should be compatible with Apps being created in
> > the Google App Store. https://market.android.com/
> > They do not yet have the large base as the Ipad today, as it started later,
> > but as Android devices become more popular worldwide, apps will become
> > available on both devices. IMHO, just as Windows beat Apple, due to its
> > closed nature and cost, android devices is the way of the global future :)
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > To: IIT-Global-DiscussionGroup@yahoogroups.com
> > From: bxghosh@...
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:59:31 +0530
> > Subject: Re: IIT Global Discussion Group Govt to begin field trial of
> > low-cost computer soon: Cost Rs 4772+ Rs 1500= Rs 6272 per browser tablet
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If Mr. Kannan is reading this, can you please spell out the specifications
> > of the $35 (now $49+) tablet (laptop?), just to prove Mr. Jha wrong? If you
> > can't, then we will have to assume that Mr. Jha is right and Mr. Sinha and
> > his team is taking the HRD minister and the country for a ride.
> >
> > I have a simple question. Will this tablet of yours be better than the
> > ipad2, or the plethora of tablets coming out in the market in terms of
> > hardware capability and software support (and portability)? I would
> > appreciate an unequivocal YES or NO answer (with of course the specs backing
> > it).
> >
> > If it is not, then why is the nation spending so much money behind it?
> > Todays youth has no patience for technology which is two years old (let
> > alone 10 or 20 that your device seems to be) with curtailed or limited power
> > and utility. They will reject your offering like so much junk!
> >
> > You would have done much better to use the Government's bargaining power to
> > buy an already established tablet at a substantial discount!
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
>

Sunday, June 12, 2011

I have faced such mud slinging by vested interests so I can give fitting reply on behalf of Baba Ramdev...Alok

I am ashamed of Baba Ramdev.says Celine ....and my relpy ....Alok



Those with blood in vains of slavery of 1000 yrs, those with vested interest who have unleashed propaganda against Baba and those who fear what does not exists nd r comfortable in present lawless state may not read. ...Alok

I Celine Suresh state that our international image is spoilt because of people like Baba
Ramdev. It is was just when our country was gaining a strong foothold in all fields... that
people like the Baba have to spoilt it.
I further state that I was /am very proud of our imagge abroad as :
  1. naked women and men line up in the morning nr highway and railway line for attending morning calls.
  2. That many children in India die due to malnutrition/ under nourishment
  3. That everyday a senior citizen is attacked
  4. that innocent girls are raped daily somewhere or other often in hospitals, schools,police stations, place of politician
  5. that many women everyday are beaten up by wife beaters and yet they are made hero of by their friends and relatives
  6. that bride and her side has to bown down in the feet of groom , please them at any cost, give them what they want or ..... get their daughter beaten,killed,separated,humiliated,insulted
  7. that lovely young couple who fall in love are killed by family and media calls it honour killing and not mad killing
  8. that 75 % population are either not getting water or getting non potable water
  9. that you have to bribe for for laying pyre, then for getting death certificate, then for getting probate, then getting names changed in property , licences of beloved decesed instead of getting sympathies at such times . And if they can take ur blood out ( for making Celine proud of India 's image) on death of family members then u can imagine what harrassment is caused to Indians on seeking various other permissions, licences, NOC.s, connections etc etc..
  10. that every year many buildings fall and life and property are lost
  11. that we have our govt hospitals, schools, gardens, roads , footpaths, other estabilishment in pathetic condition and that makes me the Celine Suresh a happy abt our image abroad.
  12. that child labour, gender discrimation, suicides by farmers , poor, down trodden all that gives me sukun/ kick of pride and I feel proud of my nation abroad which Baba Ramdev is tarnishing.
  13. That even today harijan are insulted, not allowed to enter temples ( even if come bathed, clean, healthy ) , punished for wearing shoes in so called mad superiors lane but I celine am proud of the condition of backwards, adivasies, poor.
  14. And ofcourse I am proud of Bofors, Adarsh, 2 G, Raja, kani, Shahrukh, sachin, MF husain etc who only minted money for self.
  15. I am also proud of big frauds, big miracle man , fraud Babas ( who openly advertise on media and dupe ) , astrologers who mislead and defraud innocents and exploit others, who indulge in shame less acts but ofcourse I am against Baba ramdev who teaches yoga and people willingly pay their fees to him , and or donate to him.
  16. I am against Baba Ramdev as he has some money . But I dont want to know how much satya Sai Baba had, how much Pope of Rome has, how much Aga Khan has, how much respected saydena has ( but atleast made one good hospital in Mumbai), how much goes in coffers of Tirupati,Mahalxmi, Sidhivinayak , shirdi and how much is misused.
  17. I am against those 4 ministers who received Baba Ramdev at Airport. Though I am not against top bureacrat and VIP who visited Satya sai baba the miracle man, and babas like him, who attand marriages and darbar of Dawood and other mafias, top police dancing in mafias party, I have great respect for all those filmies and others who paid their respect and paid alms to Dubai mafia and feel proud for them as they get national awards, free plots, free FSI and suck blood of poor.
  18. I the Celine Suresh am greatly satisfied and feel proud that our govt spends millions every month to protect Kasab, other underworld kings, politician, film stars , those who spread communal voilence ( communal leaders) , those who blackmailed our city elites for two decades and same govt did brutal canning and fired tear gas shells on innocent peaceful sleeping women, children , senior citizens and even sadhus in the name of threat on Baba's life ( actually threat on money stocked abroad) .. Cant go on as jo samjhata hai woh samjhta hai or jo falsehood ke nashe mein dhutt hai use kya samjega??
  19. I am not concerned when Indiraji was arrested and her folks went on rampage, I am not concerned how many sikhs died when Indiraji was assasinated not because of mob anger but because of inciting by congress leaders,I am not concerned when on communal demands rail roko andolan ( recently by a group of Rajasthan communal forces) made whole rail traffic go hay where for days, buses burnt,and so also I am proud of Kashmiri, Khalistani, Nagalandy, maoists, naxal and other voilent moments ( who killed thousands innocenets even Vaishno devi pilgrims) but I am against Baba Ramdev and his folks for not adopting such menas adopted by others,
  20. I am proud of Indian Judiciary which only takes 30 yrs to deliver, and that there r only few ( 3 cr+) cases lying in court which will be take just 300 yrs to get cleared.

    merely typed by Alok on the instructions of spirit of celine and alike who visited me and dictated above.

    Alok Tholiya

N.B.:
Yes one bad incidence in life where this same govt machinary and those criminals protected by them teach u a lesson. Then sab kuch samjhega. Till then Bye..
Request to Baba Ramdev : Make a documentry of various issues raised, incidents narrated by me above and compare with ur peaceful andolan and yet how brutaly it was crushed. ..Alok


Read What Celine/ Seline Suresh wrote:;
Baba Ramdev

Posted by: "celine suresh" Selina_suresh@hotmail.com


Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:18 am (PDT)
Hi all,
All i would like to say is
that our international image is spoilt because of people like Baba
Ramdev. It
is was just when our country was gaining a strong foothold in all fields...
that
people like the Baba have to spoilt it.
People like the Baba who
have perfected yoga to such an extent would never die from
their fasting.
What was the need for an a/c tent etc...
It should have been the
industrialists of India to take up issues with our Government
that matter
most to our country... or our own people having a peaceful demonstrations
all
over the country to highlight such issues.

The question of black
money being stacked in Swiss Bank has been going on for ages...
certainly our
country will benefit a lot if this money was to come back. Our cities
and
villages could be developed on a better scale.. hence migration to our
main cities for
a livelihood would stop.
Right now, all the Indian
expats out here feel that their taxes in India go into the pot holes
of
Mumbai streets, Kasab briyani, free slum housing for people who do not deserve
it,
the shit on the streets of mumbai,
etc.
cheers
celine

I am ashamed of Baba Ramdev.says Celine ....and my relpy ....Alok

Those with blood in vains of slavery of 1000 yrs,  those with vested interest who have  unleashed propaganda against Baba and  those who fear what does not  exists nd r comfortable in present lawless state may not read. ...Alok 
 

I Celine Suresh state  that our international image is spoilt  because of people like Baba
Ramdev. It is was just when our country was  gaining a strong foothold in all fields... that
people like the Baba have to  spoilt it.
 
 
I further state that I was /am very proud of our imagge  abroad as :
 
  1.    naked women and men line up in the morning nr highway and railway line  for attending morning calls.
  2.   That many children in India die due to malnutrition/ under nourishment
  3.   That everyday a senior citizen is attacked 
  4.   that innocent girls are raped daily somewhere or other often in hospitals,  schools,police stations, place of politician
  5.   that many women everyday are beaten up by wife beaters and yet they are made hero of by their friends and relatives
  6.   that bride and her side has to bown down in the feet of groom , please them  at any cost, give them what they want or ..... get their daughter beaten,killed,separated,humiliated,insulted
  7.  that lovely young couple who fall in love are killed by family and media  calls it honour killing and not mad killing
  8.   that 75 % population are either not getting water or getting non potable  water
  9.   that you have to bribe for for laying pyre, then for getting death  certificate, then for getting probate, then getting names changed in property ,  licences of beloved decesed instead of getting sympathies at such times . And if  they can  take ur blood out ( for making Celine proud of India 's image) on  death of family members then u can imagine what harrassment is caused to Indians  on seeking various other permissions, licences, NOC.s, connections  etc  etc..
  10.   that every year many buildings fall and life and property are lost
  11.   that we have our govt hospitals, schools, gardens, roads , footpaths, other  estabilishment in pathetic condition and that makes me the Celine Suresh a happy  abt our image abroad.
  12.   that child labour, gender discrimation, suicides by farmers , poor, down  trodden all that gives me sukun/ kick of pride and I feel proud of  my nation abroad which Baba  Ramdev is tarnishing.
  13.   That even today harijan are insulted, not allowed to enter temples ( even if  come bathed, clean, healthy ) , punished for wearing shoes in so called mad  superiors lane but I celine am proud of the condition of backwards, adivasies, poor. 
  14.   And ofcourse I am proud of Bofors, Adarsh, 2 G, Raja, kani, Shahrukh,  sachin, MF husain etc who only minted money for self.
  15.   I am also proud of big frauds, big miracle man , fraud Babas ( who openly  advertise on media and dupe ) , astrologers who mislead and defraud innocents  and exploit others, who indulge in shame less acts but ofcourse I am against  Baba ramdev who teaches yoga and people willingly pay their fees to him , and or donate to him.
  16.   I am against Baba Ramdev as he has some money . But I dont want to know how  much satya Sai Baba had, how much Pope of Rome has, how much Aga Khan has, how  much respected saydena has ( but atleast made one good hospital in Mumbai), how much goes in coffers of Tirupati,Mahalxmi, Sidhivinayak , shirdi and how much is misused.
  17.   I am against those 4 ministers who received Baba Ramdev at Airport. Though I am not against top bureacrat and VIP who visited Satya sai baba the miracle man, and  babas like him, who attand marriages and darbar of Dawood and other mafias, top  police dancing in mafias party, I have great respect for all those filmies and  others who paid their respect and paid alms to Dubai mafia and feel proud for them as they get national awards, free plots, free FSI and suck blood of poor.  
  18.  I the Celine Suresh am greatly satisfied and feel proud that our govt spends  millions every month to protect Kasab, other underworld kings, politician, film  stars , those who spread communal voilence ( communal leaders) ,  those who  blackmailed our city elites for two decades and same govt  did brutal canning and fired  tear gas shells on innocent peaceful sleeping women, children , senior citizens  and even sadhus in the name of threat on Baba's life ( actually threat on money  stocked abroad) .. Cant go on as jo samjhata hai woh samjhta hai or jo falsehood  ke nashe mein dhutt hai use kya samjega??
  19.  I am not concerned when Indiraji was arrested and her folks went on rampage, I am not concerned how many sikhs died when Indiraji was assasinated not because of mob anger but because of inciting by congress leaders,I am not concerned when on communal demands rail roko andolan ( recently by a group of Rajasthan communal forces) made whole rail traffic go hay where  for days, buses burnt,and so also I am proud of  Kashmiri, Khalistani, Nagalandy, maoists, naxal and other voilent moments ( who killed thousands innocenets even Vaishno devi pilgrims) but I am against Baba Ramdev and his folks for not adopting such menas adopted by others,
  20.  I am proud of Indian Judiciary which only takes 30 yrs to deliver, and that there r only few ( 3 cr+) cases lying in court which will be  take just 300 yrs to get cleared.
     
    merely  typed by Alok on the instructions of  spirit of celine and alike who visited me and dictated above.
     
    Alok  Tholiya

 

N.B.:
Yes  one bad  incidence in life where this same govt machinary and those criminals protected  by them teach u a lesson. Then sab kuch samjhega. Till then Bye..

Request to Baba Ramdev : Make a documentry of various issues raised, incidents narrated by me above and compare with ur peaceful andolan and yet how brutaly it was crushed. ..Alok

 


   Read What Celine/ Seline Suresh wrote:;

Baba Ramdev


Posted by: "celine suresh" Selina_suresh@hotmail.com
 


Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:18 am (PDT)

Hi all,

All i would like to say is
that our international image is spoilt because of people like Baba
   Ramdev. It
is was just when our country was gaining a strong foothold in all fields...
that
people like the Baba have to spoilt it.

People like the Baba who
have perfected yoga to such an extent would never die from
   their fasting.
What was the need for an a/c tent etc...

It should have been the
industrialists of India to take up issues with our Government
that matter
most to our country... or our own people having a peaceful demonstrations
   all
over the country to highlight such issues.


The question of black
money being stacked in Swiss Bank has been going on for ages...
certainly our
country will benefit a lot if this money was to come back. Our cities
   and
villages could be developed on a better scale.. hence migration to our
main cities for
a livelihood would stop.

Right now, all the Indian
expats out here feel that their taxes in India go into the pot holes
   of
Mumbai streets, Kasab briyani, free slum housing for people who do not deserve
it,
the shit on the streets of mumbai,
etc.

cheers
celine





my reply to Celine ...Suresh on his remarks on Baba Ramdev.....Alok

Those with blood in vains of slavery of 1000 yrs, anti those against whom propaganda is unleashed by vested politicians, those who fear what does not exists but r comfortable in present lawless state may not read. ...Alok
 

I Celine Suresh state  that our international image is spoilt because of people like Baba
Ramdev. It is was just when our country was gaining a strong foothold in all fields... that
people like the Baba have to spoilt it.
 
 
I further state that I was am very proud of our imagge abroad as :
  1. naked women and men line up in the morning nr highway and railway line up for attending morning calls.
  2. That many children in India die due to malnutrition/ under nourishment
  3. That everyday a senior citizen is attacked
  4. that innocent girls are raped daily somewhere or other often in hospitals, schools,police stations, place of politician
  5. that many women evryday are beaten up by wife beaters
  6. that bride and her side has to bown down in the feet of groom , please them at any cost, give them what they want or .....
  7. that lovely young couple who fall in love are killed by family and media calls it honour killing and not mad killing
  8. that 75 % population are either not getting water or getting non potable water
  9. that you have to bribe for for laying pyre, then for getting death certificate, then for getting probate, then getting names changed in property , licences of beloved decesed instead of getting sympathies at such times . And if they can  take ur blood out ( for making Celine proud of India 's image) on death of family members then u can imagine what harrassment is caused to Indians on seeking various other permissions, licences, NOC.s, connections  etc etc..
  10. that every year many buildings fall and life and property are lost
  11. that we have our govt hospitals, schools, gardens, roads , footpaths, other estabilishment in pathetic condition and that makes me tha Celine Suresh a happy abt our image abroad.
  12. that child labour, gender discrimation, suicides by farmers , poor, down trodden all that gives me sukun as is a pride for my nation abroad which Baba Ramdev is tarnishing.
  13. That even today harijan are insulted, not allowed to enter temples ( even if come bathed, clean, healthy ) , punished for wearing shoes in so called mad superiors but I celine am proud of the condition of backwards, adivasies, poor.
  14. And ofcourse I am proud of Bofors, Adarsh, 2 G, Raja, kani, Shahrukh, sachin, MF husain etc who only minted money for self.
  15. I am also proud of big frauds, big miracle man , fraud Babas ( who openly advertise on media and dupe ) , astrologers who mislead and defraud innocents and exploit others, who indulge in shame less acts but ofcourse I am against Baba ramdev who teaches yoga.
  16. I am against Baba Ramdev as he has some money . But I dont want to know how much satya Sai Baba had, how much Pope of Rome has, how much Aga Khan has, how much respected saydena has ( but atleast made one good hospital in Mumbai) .
  17. I am also not against top bureacrat and VIP who visited Satya sai baba and babas like him, who attand marriages and darbar of Dawood and other mafias, top police dancing in mafias party, I have great respect for all those filmies and others who paid their respect and paid alms to Dubai mafia.
  18. I the Celine Suresh am greatly satisfied and feel proud that our govt spends millions every month to protect Kasab, other underworld kings, politician, film stars , those who spread communal voilence ( communal leaders) ,  those who blackmailed our city elites for two decades but did brutally canning and firing tear gas shalls on innocent peaceful sleepin women, children , senior citizens and even sadhus in the name of threat on Baba's life ( actually threat on money stocked abroad) .. Cant go on as jo samjhata hai woh samjhta hai or jo falsehood ke nashe mein dhutt hai use kya samjega??
 
 
Yes  one bad incidence in life where this same govt machinary and those criminals protected by them teach u a lesson.
 
merely  typed by Alok on the instructions of spirit of celine and alike who visited me and dictated above.
 
Alok Tholiya


Baba Ramdev

Posted by: "celine suresh" Selina_suresh@hotmail.com

Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:18 am (PDT)





Hi all,

All i would like to say is that our international image is spoilt because of people like Baba
Ramdev. It is was just when our country was gaining a strong foothold in all fields... that
people like the Baba have to spoilt it.

People like the Baba who have perfected yoga to such an extent would never die from
their fasting. What was the need for an a/c tent etc...

It should have been the industrialists of India to take up issues with our Government
that matter most to our country... or our own people having a peaceful demonstrations
all over the country to highlight such issues.


The question of black money being stacked in Swiss Bank has been going on for ages...
certainly our country will benefit a lot if this money was to come back. Our cities and
villages could be developed on a better scale.. hence migration to our main cities for
a livelihood would stop.

Right now, all the Indian expats out here feel that their taxes in India go into the pot holes
of Mumbai streets, Kasab briyani, free slum housing for people who do not deserve it,
the shit on the streets of mumbai, etc.

cheers
celine



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