Friday, March 5, 2010

Re: [jagrutnagrik] Re: URGENT Invitation on Gujrat and what Alok says:

Bravo Alokji,

At least you have the courage to tell the truth. The pseudo secularists like Tishta and others shout from roof top "Gujrat..Gujrat.."

Have they ever shed even crocodile's tears for  "Godhra" or Kashmiri Pandits?

After all who started the violence?

They think the so called minority has all the right to do whatever they want and go scottfree. 
After all there is limit to patience. What ever magnanimity you show, you will only get response in terms of Taliban,Al Qaeda, Kasab and so on.

Have you forgotten history? Prithviraj Chauhan defeated Md. Ghajni many times and pardoned him, but when Ghajni defeated Prithviraj, he blinded him and finally killed him. This is the fundamental difference between two philosophies and cultures. 

Regards,
Kumar Pravesh.



On 1 March 2010 12:06, Mr Alok Tholiya <tholiya@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am in favour of this Memorium. However if u can remember 8 yr old then let us also remember 800 yrs old Mogul aggression, and Jaliyan wala baug, and so many other attacks on Hindus, rape of Hindu women, terror attacks of Mumbai , Puna etc., let us oppose attack on Marwaris in Aasam,attack by Naxalites, attack which Khalistanis did on thousands of innocents, attack on harijans for centuries, Attack on Pandits, on tirth yatris in jammu and Kashmir. Let us oppose beheading of great Sikhs in Pakistan.Let us oppose all genocide, violence, harassment.  Why only Gujarat. Why be bias? Is any anti Hindu/ Gujarati  funding so u have selected only Gujarat.
 
Best would be to dump all past ( even Shahrukh , Tata's find Gujarat safe and better place and have started new ventures there.
 
Let us only work in positive direction and highlight issues of brotherhood, and hoe one community helped others in calamities, distress etc..
 
When we go to a relationship experts with dispute in relationship they undertake a exercise where in they ask u to note down 10 or 20 good points in other person ( which in routine we never observe and only highlight all what is bad and often what we think is bad).Then shrink/ yoga teacher/ spiritual Guru will ask u to remember all those moments which remind u of good times u had with the other person ( cud be spouse or anyone in question ). Then u start valuing other person, u realise he / she is not as bad as u always thought, and slowly u start coming near to each other.
 
Teestaji, Ur steps are distancing two communities. U will ignite frustration in anti Hindu, and will be taken as pro minority
  by anti minority.
 
What Teesta and many others are doing taking biased view, condemning one against another( totally being opposite of what shrink wud do) , and hurting further the wounds which had started healing.
 
I suggest let us find one cut off date and beyond which govt and court shud not tolerate and nonsense ( which they have been always avoiding to play their vigilant and strict role where rule of law shud prevail be it minority or majority).And from that day we bury all  old issues and start new life.
 
Thanks and Regards,
Alok Tholiya (S.E.O.),
Real Estate, Insurance, Mutual Funds, Bonds, 
Tholiya Marketing and Leasing Pvt. Ltd.,
"Marigold", the little Party Hall,
Tholiya Bhavan, 10th Rd., Santacruz East,
Mumbai 400055
tholiya@yahoo.com
M: 9324225699


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________________________________
From: teesta setalvad <teestateesta@gmail.com>
To: Bhavna Dholam <kl_bhavna@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Sat, 27 February, 2010 6:32:43 PM
Subject: URGENT Invitation--- To join in Memorium at the Gulberg Society Feb 28, 2010





Lend your Voice to Our Struggle
Eighth Anniversary of the Gujarat Genocide 2002
 
JOIN US IN MEMORIUM AT THE GULBERG SOCIETY
 
FEBRUARY 27-28, 2010
Dear Comrades In Arms
THIS WEEK END, FEBRUARY 27-28 2010 COMMEMORATES THE EIGHT YEARS  OF THE GENOCIDE IN GUJARAT (2002)
VICTIM SURVIVORS AND LEGAL SUPPORT GROUPS, THE CITIZENS FOR JUSTICE AND PEACE WILL COMMEMORATE THE OCCASION WITH PRAYERS AT THE GULBERG SOCIETY MEGHANINAGAR BETWEEN 12 NOON AND 2 PM ON SUNDAY FEBRUARY 28, 2010.
MEANWHILE OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE IS AT A CRITICAL STAGE. WE APPROACHED THE HON SC OCTOBER 2009 POINTING OUT THE GRAVE FAILURES IN THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATION'S TEAM INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAVE BETRAYED THE VICTIMS AND THE MANDATE OF THE HON. APEX COURT.THE HEARING OF THIS CRITICAL CASE WILL BE ON MARCH 15, 2010 A CRITICAL DAY IN OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE.


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Tuesday, March 2, 2010

Demand for withdrawal of a flawed book on Hindu History published by PENGUIN Petition

VED
 PROUD OF YOU FOR PURSUING THIS
 DID SEND OUT TO OTHERS
SURPRISINGLY THOUGH THIS CULTURE DISTORTION HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE IN INDIA AND ELSE AND INDIAN GOVT OR RELIGIOUS GURUS WHOM WE ADMIRE ALL OVER THE PLACE HOPEFULLY BECOMES ACTIVE
 THIS ISSUE AND SIMILAR WHERE THE CULTURE OF HERITAGE IS DISTORTED SHOULD BE LOOKED UPON LIKE THE ISSUE OF NUCLEAR DEAL BETWEEN USA AND INDIA
 HOPEFULY POLITICAL PUNDITS WILL TAKE ACTIVE INTETRET
 HONESTLY I AM NOT UPTO THE DETAILS OF THE LITERATURS SO TRUST THIS IS CORRECT BUT IT WILL MAKE MORE SENSE IF THE SCHOLARS FROM INDIA COME OUT OPENLY IF NOT COME ALREADY AND EXPRESS
 
 
 THANKS FOR SENDING THIS TO ME
 DINESH

From: Narain Bhatia [mailto:narainb@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:03 PM
To: Ved Chaudhary
Cc: Patel, Dinesh,M.D.
Subject: Re: FW: Demand for withdrawal of a flawed book on Hindu History published by PENGUIN Petition

Ved...Nice to hear from you and I am glad you are involved as I always respect your scholarship. I am copying this email to Dr. Dinesh Patel who is very sympathetic to Hindu and Vedanta causes...Narain.

Dinesh...I have signed the petition on the grounds that these newly, self appointed western scholars have no right to be both inaccurate and also make joke of our culture. Please read the petition and if you agree sign it and give it some buzz among your friends. Ved Chuadhary is a trusted friend....Narain

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Ved Chaudhary <ved.chaudhary@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Narain,
Happy Holi to you and family.
yes, I have been actively working on this effort for several months.
I have thoroughly read 4 chapters of the book and written my comments.
other friends are reading other chapters ...
We'll put together a compilation and present to the Board of U Chicago.

I am working with sri S. Kalyanaraman and others for the petition and other activities.
Pl sign the petition.
Hope you are doing well.
Thanks
Ved
Ved P. Chaudhary, Ph.D.
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Former Member, Board of Trustees, Rutgers University, N.J.
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On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Narain Bhatia <narainb@gmail.com> wrote:
Ved,

Are you aware of this?

Best,
Narain




From: sangeeta@gayatri.info
To: ;
Subject: Demand for withdrawal of a flawed book on Hindu History published by PENGUIN Petition
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:19:58 -0500

 
 
 
Pls sign this petition and forward it to all Hindus who are concerned abt Hinduism being misinterpreted in the modern day world.

 
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: S. Kalyanaraman <kalyan97@gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 12:58:00 PM
Subject: Demand for withdrawal of a flawed book on Hindu History published by PENGUIN Petition

http://www.petitiononline.com/dharma10/petition.html

This is an earnest request to you to sign the online petition and forward it to your friends for signature.

The petition to the Penguin Group asks for an apology for the publication of the factually incorrect and offensive book “The Hindus-An Alternative History” by Wendy Doniger. We expect Penguin Group to withdraw the book immediately. 

“The Hindus: An Alternative History” is rife with numerous errors in its historical facts and Sanskrit translations. These errors and misrepresentations are bound and perhaps intended to mislead students of Indian and Hindu history. 

Throughout the book, Doniger analyzes revered Hindu Gods and Goddess using her widely discredited psychosexual Freudian theories that modern, humanistic psychology has deemed limiting. These interpretations are presented as hard facts and not as speculations. Doniger makes various faulty assumptions about the tradition in order to arrive at her particular spin. In the process, the beliefs, traditions and interpretations of practicing Hindus are simply ignored or bypassed without the unsuspecting reader knowing this to be the case. This kind of Western scholarship has been criticized as Orientalism and Eurocentrism. The non Judeo-Christian faith gets used to dish out voyeurism and the tradition gets eroticized...

We emphasize that this defamatory book misinforms readers about the history of Hindu civilization, its cultures and traditions. The book promotes prejudices and biases against Hindus. Can Penguin’s editors really be incompetent enough to have allowed this to pass to publication? If this is not deliberate malice, Penguin must act now in good faith. 

As concerned readers, we ask PENGUIN GROUP to: 

1. WITHDRAW all the copies of this book immediately from the worldwide bookshops/markets/
Universities/Libraries and refrain from printing any other edition. 

2. APOLOGIZE for having published this book “The Hindus: An Alternative History”. This book seriously and grossly misrepresents the Hindu reality as known to the vast numbers of Hindus and to scholars of Hindu tradition. PENGUIN must apologize for failure to observe proper pre-publication scrutiny and scholarly review. 

dhanyavaadah.

Kalyanaraman 






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Monday, March 1, 2010

Re: [indians_for_sociopolitical_change] Re: URGENT Invitation on Gujrat and what Alok says:

Dear Alok ji ,
 
You are doing a great job. However the carrying of the matrimonial site takes away from it ....

regards,
jagwant
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If we are not part of the solution ;
We are part of the problem! 
To become part of the solution please contact sender.
 
... come let us participate in the new war of independence of the 21st Century,
Join Bharat Swabhimaan to create a new Bharat.
 
--आओ २१वी सदी की नई आज़ादी की लडाई में भाग लें,
 भारत स्वाभिमान से जुड़कर एक नया भारत बनाए.


--- On Mon, 1/3/10, Mr Alok Tholiya <tholiya@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Mr Alok Tholiya <tholiya@hotmail.com>
Subject: [indians_for_sociopolitical_change] Re: URGENT Invitation on Gujrat and what Alok says:
To: "teesta setalvad" <teestateesta@gmail.com>, "Bhavna Dholam" <kl_bhavna@yahoo.co.in>
Cc: "Alok Tholiya Main" <tholiya@yahoo.com>, "blog atholiya @blogger.com" <atholiya.blog@blogger.com>, bm_mumbai@yahoogroups.com, "BMC Kurla iMprovement" <kurla_improvement_intellectuals@yahoogroups.com>, cooperation_corruptiongroup@yahoogroups.com, "HR People for Social Justice" <People_for_Social_Cause-subscribe@yahoogroups.co.uk>, "HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in" <HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in>, "IN Bombay Net" <bombaynet@yahoogroups.com>, "indians_for_sociopolitical_change" <indians_for_sociopolitical_change@yahoogroups.co.in>, indianveterans@yahoogroups.com, "jagrutnagrik@yahoogroups.com" <jagrutnagrik@yahoogroups.com>, "ORG Bharat Uday Mission" <bharatudaymission@yahoogroups.com>, "xxx Airmen League DEF Solders Sailors" <soldier_league@hotmail.com>, "xxx Better India GOVERNANCE YG" <betterindia@aol.com>, "xxx India Super Power YG" <makeindiasuperpower@yahoogroups.com>, "xxx mkc" <mkcgrd@yahoo.co.uk>, "xxx Retired Officers Forum Defence" <retiredofficersforum@gmail.com>, "xxx Sansad Sansad YG" <sansad@sansad.org>, "xxx Yuva Jagruti YG" <yuvajagruti@yahoogroups.com>, "Yahoogroups Karmayog" <karmayog@yahoogroups.com>, "Close to Us" <closetous@yahoogroups.com>, "Jain Matrimonials" <jainmatrimonials@yahoogroups.com>, "marigoldestateagency" <marigoldestateagency@yahoogroups.com>, "menow" <menow@yahoogroups.com>, "MIFAC yahoogroup" <mifac@yahoogroups.com>, "Property Owners" <propertyowners@yahoogroups.com>, "RESORTS TIMESHARE" <resortstimeshare-india@yahoogroups.com>, "Santacruz Civic Forum" <santacruzcivicforum@yahoogroups.com>, "Varishtha Nagrik Seva Sanstha VNSS Main" <vnss@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, 1 March, 2010, 12:06 PM

I am in favour of this Memorium. However if u can remember 8 yr old then let us also remember 800 yrs old Mogul aggression, and Jaliyan wala baug, and so many other attacks on Hindus, rape of Hindu women, terror attacks of Mumbai , Puna etc., let us oppose attack on Marwaris in Aasam,attack by Naxalites, attack which Khalistanis did on thousands of innocents, attack on harijans for centuries, Attack on Pandits, on tirth yatris in jammu and Kashmir. Let us oppose beheading of great Sikhs in Pakistan.Let us oppose all genocide, violence, harassment.  Why only Gujarat. Why be bias? Is any anti Hindu/ Gujarati  funding so u have selected only Gujarat.
 
Best would be to dump all past ( even Shahrukh , Tata's find Gujarat safe and better place and have started new ventures there.
 
Let us only work in positive direction and highlight issues of brotherhood, and hoe one community helped others in calamities, distress etc..
 
When we go to a relationship experts with dispute in relationship they undertake a exercise where in they ask u to note down 10 or 20 good points in other person ( which in routine we never observe and only highlight all what is bad and often what we think is bad).Then shrink/ yoga teacher/ spiritual Guru will ask u to remember all those moments which remind u of good times u had with the other person ( cud be spouse or anyone in question ). Then u start valuing other person, u realise he / she is not as bad as u always thought, and slowly u start coming near to each other.
 
Teestaji, Ur steps are distancing two communities. U will ignite frustration in anti Hindu, and will be taken as pro minority
  by anti minority.
 
What Teesta and many others are doing taking biased view, condemning one against another( totally being opposite of what shrink wud do) , and hurting further the wounds which had started healing.
 
I suggest let us find one cut off date and beyond which govt and court shud not tolerate and nonsense ( which they have been always avoiding to play their vigilant and strict role where rule of law shud prevail be it minority or majority).And from that day we bury all  old issues and start new life.
 
Thanks and Regards,
Alok Tholiya (S.E.O.),
Real Estate, Insurance, Mutual Funds, Bonds, 
Tholiya Marketing and Leasing Pvt. Ltd.,
"Marigold", the little Party Hall,
Tholiya Bhavan, 10th Rd., Santacruz East,
Mumbai 400055
tholiya@yahoo.com
M: 9324225699


My links and blogs :


ONLY AUTHENTIC FREE MATRIMONIALS WEBSITE FOR DIGAMBAR JAINS: www.digambarjains.com/


For Issues of Sr. citizens : http://www.karmayog.org/ngo/VNSS/


Issues of Public interests : http://aloktholiya.blogspot.com/


precious collections: http://beautifulwe.blogspot.com/




________________________________
From: teesta setalvad <teestateesta@gmail.com>
To: Bhavna Dholam <kl_bhavna@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Sat, 27 February, 2010 6:32:43 PM
Subject: URGENT Invitation--- To join in Memorium at the Gulberg Society Feb 28, 2010





Lend your Voice to Our Struggle
Eighth Anniversary of the Gujarat Genocide 2002
 
JOIN US IN MEMORIUM AT THE GULBERG SOCIETY
 
FEBRUARY 27-28, 2010
Dear Comrades In Arms
THIS WEEK END, FEBRUARY 27-28 2010 COMMEMORATES THE EIGHT YEARS  OF THE GENOCIDE IN GUJARAT (2002)
VICTIM SURVIVORS AND LEGAL SUPPORT GROUPS, THE CITIZENS FOR JUSTICE AND PEACE WILL COMMEMORATE THE OCCASION WITH PRAYERS AT THE GULBERG SOCIETY MEGHANINAGAR BETWEEN 12 NOON AND 2 PM ON SUNDAY FEBRUARY 28, 2010.
MEANWHILE OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE IS AT A CRITICAL STAGE. WE APPROACHED THE HON SC OCTOBER 2009 POINTING OUT THE GRAVE FAILURES IN THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATION'S TEAM INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAVE BETRAYED THE VICTIMS AND THE MANDATE OF THE HON. APEX COURT.THE HEARING OF THIS CRITICAL CASE WILL BE ON MARCH 15, 2010 A CRITICAL DAY IN OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE.


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RE: [menow] Re: URGENT Invitation on Gujrat and what Alok says:

Hi all,
This issue seems to be more politicized than passion and compassions for all who are not with us centuries on wards and recently. 
Focus on the correcting past mistakes by devotion to god  who can give strength of tolerance  acceptance and reunite with single purpose to make the lives of citizens at large better
 Blame and flame legal or ethical is not getting the hidden inherent genes of indus heritage come out for the good of society but seems to be bringing the hate and intolerance
 
Udaaseenavadaaseenao gunairyo na vichaalyate  | 
Gunaa vartant ityeva yovatishthati negete  ||  (Gita 14/23)
 
 
Samadukhahsukhah swasthah samaloshtaashmakaachanah | 
Tulyapriyaapriyo dheerastulyanindaatmasanstutih  ||   Gita 14/24)
Maanapamaanyostulyastulyo mitraaripakshyoh  | 
sarvaarmbhparityaagi gunaateetah sa uchyate  ||   (Gita 14/25)
 
A steadfast man remains even-minded in pleasure and pain and remains established in the Self; He who remains in equanimity whether it be mud, stone or gold; he who remains even-minded in agreeable and disagreeable situations; he who remains level-headed when criticized or praised;  he who remains even in honour and dishonor; he who remains equal with friends and foe; and he who renounces the undertaking of all actions, that man is called "gunaateet" (beyond "gunas" qualities). 
 
Hopefully  the activities for making lives of people better does not get distracted
 Let us pray for all who left us and infuse the spirit of goodwill for future that such thing does not happen
d patel
 

From: menow@yahoogroups.com [mailto:menow@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of krantikumar dharmadhikary
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:43 AM
To: teesta setalvad; Bhavna Dholam; menow@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Alok Tholiya Main; blog atholiya @blogger.com; bm_mumbai@yahoogroups.com; BMC Kurla iMprovement; cooperation_corruptiongroup@yahoogroups.com; HR People for Social Justice; HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in; IN Bombay Net; indians_for_sociopolitical_change; indianveterans@yahoogroups.com; jagrutnagrik@yahoogroups.com; ORG Bharat Uday Mission; xxx Airmen League DEF Solders Sailors; xxx Better India GOVERNANCE YG; xxx India Super Power YG; xxx mkc; xxx Retired Officers Forum Defence; xxx Sansad Sansad YG; xxx Yuva Jagruti YG; Yahoogroups Karmayog; Close to Us; Jain Matrimonials; marigoldestateagency; menow; MIFAC yahoogroup; Property Owners; RESORTS TIMESHARE; Santacruz Civic Forum; Varishtha Nagrik Seva Sanstha VNSS Main
Subject: Re: [menow] Re: URGENT Invitation on Gujrat and what Alok says:



Dear Friends,
Rightly said by Sh Alok.
Let us try to heal wounds, either side, bury all  old issues and start new life.
We must support this and act accordingly.
Col Dharma
--- On Mon, 1/3/10, Mr Alok Tholiya <tholiya@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mr Alok Tholiya <tholiya@yahoo.com>
Subject: [menow] Re: URGENT Invitation on Gujrat and what Alok says:
To: "teesta setalvad" <teestateesta@gmail.com>, "Bhavna Dholam" <kl_bhavna@yahoo.co.in>
Cc: "Alok Tholiya Main" <tholiya@yahoo.com>, "blog atholiya @blogger.com" <atholiya.blog@blogger.com>, bm_mumbai@yahoogroups.com, "BMC Kurla iMprovement" <kurla_improvement_intellectuals@yahoogroups.com>, cooperation_corruptiongroup@yahoogroups.com, "HR People for Social Justice" <People_for_Social_Cause-subscribe@yahoogroups.co.uk>, "HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in" <HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in>, "IN Bombay Net" <bombaynet@yahoogroups.com>, "indians_for_sociopolitical_change" <indians_for_sociopolitical_change@yahoogroups.co.in>, indianveterans@yahoogroups.com, "jagrutnagrik@yahoogroups.com" <jagrutnagrik@yahoogroups.com>, "ORG Bharat Uday Mission" <bharatudaymission@yahoogroups.com>, "xxx Airmen League DEF Solders Sailors" <soldier_league@hotmail.com>, "xxx Better India GOVERNANCE YG" <betterindia@aol.com>, "xxx India Super Power YG" <makeindiasuperpower@yahoogroups.com>, "xxx mkc" <mkcgrd@yahoo.co.uk>, "xxx Retired Officers Forum Defence" <retiredofficersforum@gmail.com>, "xxx Sansad Sansad YG" <sansad@sansad.org>, "xxx Yuva Jagruti YG" <yuvajagruti@yahoogroups.com>, "Yahoogroups Karmayog" <karmayog@yahoogroups.com>, "Close to Us" <closetous@yahoogroups.com>, "Jain Matrimonials" <jainmatrimonials@yahoogroups.com>, "marigoldestateagency" <marigoldestateagency@yahoogroups.com>, "menow" <menow@yahoogroups.com>, "MIFAC yahoogroup" <mifac@yahoogroups.com>, "Property Owners" <propertyowners@yahoogroups.com>, "RESORTS TIMESHARE" <resortstimeshare-india@yahoogroups.com>, "Santacruz Civic Forum" <santacruzcivicforum@yahoogroups.com>, "Varishtha Nagrik Seva Sanstha VNSS Main" <vnss@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, 1 March, 2010, 12:06 PM


I am in favour of this Memorium. However if u can remember 8 yr old then let us also remember 800 yrs old Mogul aggression, and Jaliyan wala baug, and so many other attacks on Hindus, rape of Hindu women, terror attacks of Mumbai , Puna etc., let us oppose attack on Marwaris in Aasam,attack by Naxalites, attack which Khalistanis did on thousands of innocents, attack on harijans for centuries, Attack on Pandits, on tirth yatris in jammu and Kashmir. Let us oppose beheading of great Sikhs in Pakistan.Let us oppose all genocide, violence, harassment.  Why only Gujarat. Why be bias? Is any anti Hindu/ Gujarati  funding so u have selected only Gujarat.
 
Best would be to dump all past ( even Shahrukh , Tata's find Gujarat safe and better place and have started new ventures there.
 
Let us only work in positive direction and highlight issues of brotherhood, and hoe one community helped others in calamities, distress etc..
 
When we go to a relationship experts with dispute in relationship they undertake a exercise where in they ask u to note down 10 or 20 good points in other person ( which in routine we never observe and only highlight all what is bad and often what we think is bad).Then shrink/ yoga teacher/ spiritual Guru will ask u to remember all those moments which remind u of good times u had with the other person ( cud be spouse or anyone in question ). Then u start valuing other person, u realise he / she is not as bad as u always thought, and slowly u start coming near to each other.
 
Teestaji, Ur steps are distancing two communities. U will ignite frustration in anti Hindu, and will be taken as pro minority
  by anti minority.
 
What Teesta and many others are doing taking biased view, condemning one against another( totally being opposite of what shrink wud do) , and hurting further the wounds which had started healing.
 
I suggest let us find one cut off date and beyond which govt and court shud not tolerate and nonsense ( which they have been always avoiding to play their vigilant and strict role where rule of law shud prevail be it minority or majority).And from that day we bury all  old issues and start new life.
 
Thanks and Regards,
Alok Tholiya (S.E.O.),
Real Estate, Insurance, Mutual Funds, Bonds, 
Tholiya Marketing and Leasing Pvt. Ltd.,
“Marigold”, the little Party Hall,
Tholiya Bhavan, 10th Rd., Santacruz East,
Mumbai 400055
tholiya@yahoo.com
M: 9324225699


My links and blogs :


ONLY AUTHENTIC FREE MATRIMONIALS WEBSITE FOR DIGAMBAR JAINS: www.digambarjains.com/


For Issues of Sr. citizens : http://www.karmayog.org/ngo/VNSS/


Issues of Public interests : http://aloktholiya.blogspot.com/


precious collections: http://beautifulwe.blogspot.com/




________________________________
From: teesta setalvad <teestateesta@gmail.com>
To: Bhavna Dholam <kl_bhavna@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Sat, 27 February, 2010 6:32:43 PM
Subject: URGENT Invitation--- To join in Memorium at the Gulberg Society Feb 28, 2010





Lend your Voice to Our Struggle
Eighth Anniversary of the Gujarat Genocide 2002
 
JOIN US IN MEMORIUM AT THE GULBERG SOCIETY
 
FEBRUARY 27-28, 2010
Dear Comrades In Arms
THIS WEEK END, FEBRUARY 27-28 2010 COMMEMORATES THE EIGHT YEARS  OF THE GENOCIDE IN GUJARAT (2002)
VICTIM SURVIVORS AND LEGAL SUPPORT GROUPS, THE CITIZENS FOR JUSTICE AND PEACE WILL COMMEMORATE THE OCCASION WITH PRAYERS AT THE GULBERG SOCIETY MEGHANINAGAR BETWEEN 12 NOON AND 2 PM ON SUNDAY FEBRUARY 28, 2010.
MEANWHILE OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE IS AT A CRITICAL STAGE. WE APPROACHED THE HON SC OCTOBER 2009 POINTING OUT THE GRAVE FAILURES IN THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATION’S TEAM INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAVE BETRAYED THE VICTIMS AND THE MANDATE OF THE HON. APEX COURT.THE HEARING OF THIS CRITICAL CASE WILL BE ON MARCH 15, 2010 A CRITICAL DAY IN OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE.




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Re: [jagrutnagrik] Re: URGENT Invitation on Gujrat and what Alok says:

Teesta
We salute you for your relentless drive against perpetrators of genocide....people like you and those working with you make sure that communal divides do not go unpunished.....

Mustan

--- On Mon, 1/3/10, Mr Alok Tholiya <tholiya@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mr Alok Tholiya <tholiya@yahoo.com>
Subject: [jagrutnagrik] Re: URGENT Invitation on Gujrat and what Alok says:
To: "teesta setalvad" <teestateesta@gmail.com>, "Bhavna Dholam" <kl_bhavna@yahoo.co.in>
Cc: "Alok Tholiya Main" <tholiya@yahoo.com>, "blog atholiya @blogger.com" <atholiya.blog@blogger.com>, bm_mumbai@yahoogroups.com, "BMC Kurla iMprovement" <kurla_improvement_intellectuals@yahoogroups.com>, cooperation_corruptiongroup@yahoogroups.com, "HR People for Social Justice" <People_for_Social_Cause-subscribe@yahoogroups.co.uk>, "HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in" <HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in>, "IN Bombay Net" <bombaynet@yahoogroups.com>, "indians_for_sociopolitical_change" <indians_for_sociopolitical_change@yahoogroups.co.in>, indianveterans@yahoogroups.com, "jagrutnagrik@yahoogroups.com" <jagrutnagrik@yahoogroups.com>, "ORG Bharat Uday Mission" <bharatudaymission@yahoogroups.com>, "xxx Airmen League DEF Solders Sailors" <soldier_league@hotmail.com>, "xxx Better India GOVERNANCE YG" <betterindia@aol.com>, "xxx India Super Power YG" <makeindiasuperpower@yahoogroups.com>, "xxx mkc" <mkcgrd@yahoo.co.uk>, "xxx Retired Officers Forum Defence" <retiredofficersforum@gmail.com>, "xxx Sansad Sansad YG" <sansad@sansad.org>, "xxx Yuva Jagruti YG" <yuvajagruti@yahoogroups.com>, "Yahoogroups Karmayog" <karmayog@yahoogroups.com>, "Close to Us" <closetous@yahoogroups.com>, "Jain Matrimonials" <jainmatrimonials@yahoogroups.com>, "marigoldestateagency" <marigoldestateagency@yahoogroups.com>, "menow" <menow@yahoogroups.com>, "MIFAC yahoogroup" <mifac@yahoogroups.com>, "Property Owners" <propertyowners@yahoogroups.com>, "RESORTS TIMESHARE" <resortstimeshare-india@yahoogroups.com>, "Santacruz Civic Forum" <santacruzcivicforum@yahoogroups.com>, "Varishtha Nagrik Seva Sanstha VNSS Main" <vnss@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, 1 March, 2010, 12:06 PM


I am in favour of this Memorium. However if u can remember 8 yr old then let us also remember 800 yrs old Mogul aggression, and Jaliyan wala baug, and so many other attacks on Hindus, rape of Hindu women, terror attacks of Mumbai , Puna etc., let us oppose attack on Marwaris in Aasam,attack by Naxalites, attack which Khalistanis did on thousands of innocents, attack on harijans for centuries, Attack on Pandits, on tirth yatris in jammu and Kashmir. Let us oppose beheading of great Sikhs in Pakistan.Let us oppose all genocide, violence, harassment.  Why only Gujarat. Why be bias? Is any anti Hindu/ Gujarati  funding so u have selected only Gujarat.
 
Best would be to dump all past ( even Shahrukh , Tata's find Gujarat safe and better place and have started new ventures there.
 
Let us only work in positive direction and highlight issues of brotherhood, and hoe one community helped others in calamities, distress etc..
 
When we go to a relationship experts with dispute in relationship they undertake a exercise where in they ask u to note down 10 or 20 good points in other person ( which in routine we never observe and only highlight all what is bad and often what we think is bad).Then shrink/ yoga teacher/ spiritual Guru will ask u to remember all those moments which remind u of good times u had with the other person ( cud be spouse or anyone in question ). Then u start valuing other person, u realise he / she is not as bad as u always thought, and slowly u start coming near to each other.
 
Teestaji, Ur steps are distancing two communities. U will ignite frustration in anti Hindu, and will be taken as pro minority
  by anti minority.
 
What Teesta and many others are doing taking biased view, condemning one against another( totally being opposite of what shrink wud do) , and hurting further the wounds which had started healing.
 
I suggest let us find one cut off date and beyond which govt and court shud not tolerate and nonsense ( which they have been always avoiding to play their vigilant and strict role where rule of law shud prevail be it minority or majority).And from that day we bury all  old issues and start new life.
 
Thanks and Regards,
Alok Tholiya (S.E.O.),
Real Estate, Insurance, Mutual Funds, Bonds, 
Tholiya Marketing and Leasing Pvt. Ltd.,
"Marigold", the little Party Hall,
Tholiya Bhavan, 10th Rd., Santacruz East,
Mumbai 400055
tholiya@yahoo.com
M: 9324225699


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________________________________
From: teesta setalvad <teestateesta@gmail.com>
To: Bhavna Dholam <kl_bhavna@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Sat, 27 February, 2010 6:32:43 PM
Subject: URGENT Invitation--- To join in Memorium at the Gulberg Society Feb 28, 2010





Lend your Voice to Our Struggle
Eighth Anniversary of the Gujarat Genocide 2002
 
JOIN US IN MEMORIUM AT THE GULBERG SOCIETY
 
FEBRUARY 27-28, 2010
Dear Comrades In Arms
THIS WEEK END, FEBRUARY 27-28 2010 COMMEMORATES THE EIGHT YEARS  OF THE GENOCIDE IN GUJARAT (2002)
VICTIM SURVIVORS AND LEGAL SUPPORT GROUPS, THE CITIZENS FOR JUSTICE AND PEACE WILL COMMEMORATE THE OCCASION WITH PRAYERS AT THE GULBERG SOCIETY MEGHANINAGAR BETWEEN 12 NOON AND 2 PM ON SUNDAY FEBRUARY 28, 2010.
MEANWHILE OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE IS AT A CRITICAL STAGE. WE APPROACHED THE HON SC OCTOBER 2009 POINTING OUT THE GRAVE FAILURES IN THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATION'S TEAM INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAVE BETRAYED THE VICTIMS AND THE MANDATE OF THE HON. APEX COURT.THE HEARING OF THIS CRITICAL CASE WILL BE ON MARCH 15, 2010 A CRITICAL DAY IN OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE.




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Re: [menow] Re: URGENT Invitation on Gujrat and what Alok says:

Dear Friends,
Rightly said by Sh Alok.
Let us try to heal wounds, either side, bury all  old issues and start new life.
We must support this and act accordingly.
Col Dharma
--- On Mon, 1/3/10, Mr Alok Tholiya <tholiya@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mr Alok Tholiya <tholiya@yahoo.com>
Subject: [menow] Re: URGENT Invitation on Gujrat and what Alok says:
To: "teesta setalvad" <teestateesta@gmail.com>, "Bhavna Dholam" <kl_bhavna@yahoo.co.in>
Cc: "Alok Tholiya Main" <tholiya@yahoo.com>, "blog atholiya @blogger.com" <atholiya.blog@blogger.com>, bm_mumbai@yahoogroups.com, "BMC Kurla iMprovement" <kurla_improvement_intellectuals@yahoogroups.com>, cooperation_corruptiongroup@yahoogroups.com, "HR People for Social Justice" <People_for_Social_Cause-subscribe@yahoogroups.co.uk>, "HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in" <HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in>, "IN Bombay Net" <bombaynet@yahoogroups.com>, "indians_for_sociopolitical_change" <indians_for_sociopolitical_change@yahoogroups.co.in>, indianveterans@yahoogroups.com, "jagrutnagrik@yahoogroups.com" <jagrutnagrik@yahoogroups.com>, "ORG Bharat Uday Mission" <bharatudaymission@yahoogroups.com>, "xxx Airmen League DEF Solders Sailors" <soldier_league@hotmail.com>, "xxx Better India GOVERNANCE YG" <betterindia@aol.com>, "xxx India Super Power YG" <makeindiasuperpower@yahoogroups.com>, "xxx mkc" <mkcgrd@yahoo.co.uk>, "xxx Retired Officers Forum Defence" <retiredofficersforum@gmail.com>, "xxx Sansad Sansad YG" <sansad@sansad.org>, "xxx Yuva Jagruti YG" <yuvajagruti@yahoogroups.com>, "Yahoogroups Karmayog" <karmayog@yahoogroups.com>, "Close to Us" <closetous@yahoogroups.com>, "Jain Matrimonials" <jainmatrimonials@yahoogroups.com>, "marigoldestateagency" <marigoldestateagency@yahoogroups.com>, "menow" <menow@yahoogroups.com>, "MIFAC yahoogroup" <mifac@yahoogroups.com>, "Property Owners" <propertyowners@yahoogroups.com>, "RESORTS TIMESHARE" <resortstimeshare-india@yahoogroups.com>, "Santacruz Civic Forum" <santacruzcivicforum@yahoogroups.com>, "Varishtha Nagrik Seva Sanstha VNSS Main" <vnss@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, 1 March, 2010, 12:06 PM


I am in favour of this Memorium. However if u can remember 8 yr old then let us also remember 800 yrs old Mogul aggression, and Jaliyan wala baug, and so many other attacks on Hindus, rape of Hindu women, terror attacks of Mumbai , Puna etc., let us oppose attack on Marwaris in Aasam,attack by Naxalites, attack which Khalistanis did on thousands of innocents, attack on harijans for centuries, Attack on Pandits, on tirth yatris in jammu and Kashmir. Let us oppose beheading of great Sikhs in Pakistan.Let us oppose all genocide, violence, harassment.  Why only Gujarat. Why be bias? Is any anti Hindu/ Gujarati  funding so u have selected only Gujarat.
 
Best would be to dump all past ( even Shahrukh , Tata's find Gujarat safe and better place and have started new ventures there.
 
Let us only work in positive direction and highlight issues of brotherhood, and hoe one community helped others in calamities, distress etc..
 
When we go to a relationship experts with dispute in relationship they undertake a exercise where in they ask u to note down 10 or 20 good points in other person ( which in routine we never observe and only highlight all what is bad and often what we think is bad).Then shrink/ yoga teacher/ spiritual Guru will ask u to remember all those moments which remind u of good times u had with the other person ( cud be spouse or anyone in question ). Then u start valuing other person, u realise he / she is not as bad as u always thought, and slowly u start coming near to each other.
 
Teestaji, Ur steps are distancing two communities. U will ignite frustration in anti Hindu, and will be taken as pro minority
  by anti minority.
 
What Teesta and many others are doing taking biased view, condemning one against another( totally being opposite of what shrink wud do) , and hurting further the wounds which had started healing.
 
I suggest let us find one cut off date and beyond which govt and court shud not tolerate and nonsense ( which they have been always avoiding to play their vigilant and strict role where rule of law shud prevail be it minority or majority).And from that day we bury all  old issues and start new life.
 
Thanks and Regards,
Alok Tholiya (S.E.O.),
Real Estate, Insurance, Mutual Funds, Bonds, 
Tholiya Marketing and Leasing Pvt. Ltd.,
"Marigold", the little Party Hall,
Tholiya Bhavan, 10th Rd., Santacruz East,
Mumbai 400055
tholiya@yahoo.com
M: 9324225699


My links and blogs :


ONLY AUTHENTIC FREE MATRIMONIALS WEBSITE FOR DIGAMBAR JAINS: www.digambarjains.com/


For Issues of Sr. citizens : http://www.karmayog.org/ngo/VNSS/


Issues of Public interests : http://aloktholiya.blogspot.com/


precious collections: http://beautifulwe.blogspot.com/




________________________________
From: teesta setalvad <teestateesta@gmail.com>
To: Bhavna Dholam <kl_bhavna@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Sat, 27 February, 2010 6:32:43 PM
Subject: URGENT Invitation--- To join in Memorium at the Gulberg Society Feb 28, 2010





Lend your Voice to Our Struggle
Eighth Anniversary of the Gujarat Genocide 2002
 
JOIN US IN MEMORIUM AT THE GULBERG SOCIETY
 
FEBRUARY 27-28, 2010
Dear Comrades In Arms
THIS WEEK END, FEBRUARY 27-28 2010 COMMEMORATES THE EIGHT YEARS  OF THE GENOCIDE IN GUJARAT (2002)
VICTIM SURVIVORS AND LEGAL SUPPORT GROUPS, THE CITIZENS FOR JUSTICE AND PEACE WILL COMMEMORATE THE OCCASION WITH PRAYERS AT THE GULBERG SOCIETY MEGHANINAGAR BETWEEN 12 NOON AND 2 PM ON SUNDAY FEBRUARY 28, 2010.
MEANWHILE OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE IS AT A CRITICAL STAGE. WE APPROACHED THE HON SC OCTOBER 2009 POINTING OUT THE GRAVE FAILURES IN THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATION'S TEAM INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAVE BETRAYED THE VICTIMS AND THE MANDATE OF THE HON. APEX COURT.THE HEARING OF THIS CRITICAL CASE WILL BE ON MARCH 15, 2010 A CRITICAL DAY IN OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE.




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Sunday, February 28, 2010

Re: URGENT Invitation on Gujrat and what Alok says:

I am in favour of this Memorium. However if u can remember 8 yr old then let us also remember 800 yrs old Mogul aggression, and Jaliyan wala baug, and so many other attacks on Hindus, rape of Hindu women, terror attacks of Mumbai , Puna etc., let us oppose attack on Marwaris in Aasam,attack by Naxalites, attack which Khalistanis did on thousands of innocents, attack on harijans for centuries, Attack on Pandits, on tirth yatris in jammu and Kashmir. Let us oppose beheading of great Sikhs in Pakistan.Let us oppose all genocide, violence, harassment.  Why only Gujarat. Why be bias? Is any anti Hindu/ Gujarati  funding so u have selected only Gujarat.
 
Best would be to dump all past ( even Shahrukh , Tata's find Gujarat safe and better place and have started new ventures there.
 
Let us only work in positive direction and highlight issues of brotherhood, and hoe one community helped others in calamities, distress etc..
 
When we go to a relationship experts with dispute in relationship they undertake a exercise where in they ask u to note down 10 or 20 good points in other person ( which in routine we never observe and only highlight all what is bad and often what we think is bad).Then shrink/ yoga teacher/ spiritual Guru will ask u to remember all those moments which remind u of good times u had with the other person ( cud be spouse or anyone in question ). Then u start valuing other person, u realise he / she is not as bad as u always thought, and slowly u start coming near to each other.
 
Teestaji, Ur steps are distancing two communities. U will ignite frustration in anti Hindu, and will be taken as pro minority
  by anti minority.
 
What Teesta and many others are doing taking biased view, condemning one against another( totally being opposite of what shrink wud do) , and hurting further the wounds which had started healing.
 
I suggest let us find one cut off date and beyond which govt and court shud not tolerate and nonsense ( which they have been always avoiding to play their vigilant and strict role where rule of law shud prevail be it minority or majority).And from that day we bury all  old issues and start new life.
 
Thanks and Regards,
Alok Tholiya (S.E.O.),
Real Estate, Insurance, Mutual Funds, Bonds, 
Tholiya Marketing and Leasing Pvt. Ltd.,
"Marigold", the little Party Hall,
Tholiya Bhavan, 10th Rd., Santacruz East,
Mumbai 400055
tholiya@yahoo.com
M: 9324225699


My links and blogs :


ONLY AUTHENTIC FREE MATRIMONIALS WEBSITE FOR DIGAMBAR JAINS: www.digambarjains.com/


For Issues of Sr. citizens : http://www.karmayog.org/ngo/VNSS/


Issues of Public interests : http://aloktholiya.blogspot.com/


precious collections: http://beautifulwe.blogspot.com/




________________________________
From: teesta setalvad <teestateesta@gmail.com>
To: Bhavna Dholam <kl_bhavna@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Sat, 27 February, 2010 6:32:43 PM
Subject: URGENT Invitation--- To join in Memorium at the Gulberg Society Feb 28, 2010





Lend your Voice to Our Struggle
Eighth Anniversary of the Gujarat Genocide 2002
 
JOIN US IN MEMORIUM AT THE GULBERG SOCIETY
 
FEBRUARY 27-28, 2010
Dear Comrades In Arms
THIS WEEK END, FEBRUARY 27-28 2010 COMMEMORATES THE EIGHT YEARS  OF THE GENOCIDE IN GUJARAT (2002)
VICTIM SURVIVORS AND LEGAL SUPPORT GROUPS, THE CITIZENS FOR JUSTICE AND PEACE WILL COMMEMORATE THE OCCASION WITH PRAYERS AT THE GULBERG SOCIETY MEGHANINAGAR BETWEEN 12 NOON AND 2 PM ON SUNDAY FEBRUARY 28, 2010.
MEANWHILE OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE IS AT A CRITICAL STAGE. WE APPROACHED THE HON SC OCTOBER 2009 POINTING OUT THE GRAVE FAILURES IN THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATION'S TEAM INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAVE BETRAYED THE VICTIMS AND THE MANDATE OF THE HON. APEX COURT.THE HEARING OF THIS CRITICAL CASE WILL BE ON MARCH 15, 2010 A CRITICAL DAY IN OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE.


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